here is a reponce to the topic on true freedom by John Flavell and my responce to him follows….
Well since I’m here, might as well get all deep and meaningful. I think it is possible to find true freedom, or at least know where it can be found. In the person of Christ, and in his kingdom there is true freedom. (Would put in bible verse here, but not sure where it is, but it’s the “I bring you the truth and the truth will set you free”).
I find as I follow Christ, and his purposes, I feel more and more released, more free. And I think that is with people, amongst them, and in the joy of sharing life with them in the church. Not with bears, however much easier they are to get on with.
Rob Bell does this DVD about living between the trees, about how we’re between the tree of good and evil and the tree of life.We’re in the midst of the story, and we can find the kingdom now, we don’t just have to wait for it to come. Anyway, not sure that made sense.
Thanks for your response to the true freedom thoughts on my blog I have been chewing over what you said for a couple of days and have some thoughts in response
Do you think that freedom is just a feeling? Or is a reality? And how do you think we can recognise it in other ways than just freedom? In Romans 8 Paul is talking about knowing we are saved and uses the analogy of the hope that salvation gives us
Rom 8:24-25 For we are saved by hope. But hope that is seen is not hope; for what anyone sees, why does he also hope for it? But if we hope for that which we do not see, then we wait for it with patience.
Again do you think that we gain true freedom in this fallen world? Romans 7:15 talks about being a slave to sin. If Christ died for all sin why do we still live in a sinful world? Where does the freedom of Christ exist, in this world or the next?
Your point on ‘The truth will set you free’ yes, absolutely! it will but when? at birth, with revelations, though death?
Treadwell’s freedom attracts me so much because of the ‘otherness’ of the world in which he existed. The bleakness of the wilderness seems to have such a freedom to it. Am I freer now than before I knew Christ yes! But not as much as I think I could be.
The times I feel most free are when I am out of this world that I live in everyday, when I am surfing snowboarding emerged in nature. You see I think true freedom can only come in the next world the truth will set us free because it leads us to beyond this life to the next.
What do you think ?